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Tim Dawson
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Out of interest, how much would you be willing to pay, in order for us to produce vector maps of all airfields in Europe in the way you suggest?
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Dema
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Dear SkyDemon support.
I totally agree: SD is the most comfortable and complete navigation sw I tried (from many!).
I appreciated also the last improvement about the flight plan management.
Bravi! 👍
Few weeks ago I was thinking: it's a pitty that you cannot manage flight plan directly on SD.... Few weeks after... resolved!
That's means, that you are very close to the user needs. Bravi again!
Now, another functionality lack (on my mind) is related to "Ground navigation". When you are landing to an airfield you don't have time to switch or activate the different path and it's very difficult to figure out where are all vacation exits, taxiway, crossing, fuel station, parking and so on.
And it's difficult to remember all the info you receive from tower or ground if you don't have all the paths showed on the map.
The same when you leave the parking, via many taxiway and cross way, to the runway holding point, just before taking off.
I found this forum topic, in which I understand you are talking about exactly this "Ground movement" functionality.
Great!
You propose to use the "aerodrome platea" (georeferenced) as a support for the ground movement. Ok.
But what I was thinking is little different and more user friendly.
Each plate from each country is designed on its way, different from one to another, you have to download (and to buy IT before).
Many are designed in light gray (eg: Italy), impossible to read on the display....
Many of them are not so easy to understand.
In some aerodrome plates, there are too much information and you cannot concentrate to the useful info you need to taxi.
I propose to evaluate a different approach to the Ground movement support.
First of all only the essential info (vacating exit, taxiway, runway, crossing, holding point, parking, fuel station..).
All other info are not important when you are taxiing.
Second: all airfields with the same "graphical representation", DIRECTLY on the map.
Third: zoom-in and zoom-out automatically and automatically activated/deactivated in relation to speed (you are taxing or taking off/landing).
The reference SW is "Jeppesen Mobile FliteDeck VFR". Did you already tried it during ground movement? It's completely another kind of support... (I don't say you have to do it on exact way, .. I'm sure you'll do better! 👍😊).
I remember you started to introduce such a kind of simplified ground movement management (eg: EGLK and some others). It was a good starting point, but to extend to ALL airports and in functionality.
I understand this is not a light upgrade... This is a completely redesign to the Ground Movement function.
But believe me: this is now the biggest (and may be the only one, on my mind) weakness of SD sw against the others...
I suppose other guys on this forum (may be not in the right way...😏) are trying to suggest...
I'm sure it could be another big improvement of your sw that let you maintain always competitive...
Hoping you can thinking about it and considering it strategic for the continuous success of your product.
Personally, I prefer to wait for it, but receiving a very useful and supporting functionality, as you are able to do...
Thanks for your attention.
Best regards and Good Job! 😊
Andrea Demarchi
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jfw
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Hello, For Belgium I suggest to use the "aerodrome ground mouvement chart" for geo referencing instead of "aerodrome chart" for EBFN, EBFS, EBBE in order to have the names of the taxiways. Would it also be possible to foresee the arrival circuits of EBGB, EBCI, EBLG on the moving map (is already accessible via the geo approach chart except for EBGB) ? Thanks in advance. Br, Jf
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Tim Dawson
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Yes, we will work on those over the next few days.
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Mimbrok
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Good afternoon. It is possible to make aerodrome chart (georeferenced) at the airports of Spain.
LEIB. LEAL. LEVC. LEPA. LERS. LEBB. LEXJ. LEAS. LEVT. LELN. LEBG
Very thanks.
Sorry for my English
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cocoroman
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+xThat is already how it works, cocoroman. SkyDemon shows the plates automatically as long as you've downloaded them. The documentation contains information about how this works, I believe. O.K. Tim, guess what? as I had changed from an Android (Nexus10) to iPad4, and this wasn't new one(second hand). So I allready had the problems with "Not Charging" and etc.. Suddenly I have noticed that, it wasn't showing the plates like it should do. To be sure, I have installed to my wife's iPad2,(older one). And voila, all was working like a Swiss Watch, and charging like it should do. So all Plates and VAC & Taxi charts are doing fine with me. Thanks again for your patiens, and sorry for being a pain..
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Tim Dawson
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That is already how it works, cocoroman. SkyDemon shows the plates automatically as long as you've downloaded them. The documentation contains information about how this works, I believe.
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cocoroman
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O.K. Last time of explanation; first of all, thanks for your comitments on this. But I am still talking about TAXI Ways. Means; I have already purchased Switzerland's SkyGuide from SD. And now it is starting to show even small Airfields etc. my question was, They are not following in zoom. E.g, when I am on the ground, SD won't show me my Taxi way, when I take of, SD won't show me departure or Approach charts automatically. Unless I have to activate them manually my self. In similator it is very easy, but in real flight, it may be very freaky. You will have watch what you are flying, and same time look in to your iPad what you are flying. Thats why I am saying, it should all come as sequenced. And I'm sure they will do it ASAP. They are a great team. Thanks again for your inputs on this..
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T67M
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+x+x+x+xI am pretty sure we have georeferenced all Swiss airfield aerodrome plates. You're welcome.
Obviously we cannot georeference a plate which does not exist. Perhaps some of the airfields you listed do not actually have official plates published by the Swiss authorities, so there is nothing for us to georeference. Hi Tim, sure I forgot to thank you for something that I have paid. I,m really sorry to forgot to say my thanks. Thank you very much indeed. Coming to the thing; I've never talked about Plates, but about "TAXI FACILITIES" the list I gave you, are most visited Airfields in Switzerland. But hey, I'm taking your word, go for it. Honestly I don't know if I'm gonna stay with SD. Because today, I've made a flight (A real) from LSGN to LSZB, imagine all was lagging behind, means: it never showed up VAC approach, never showed Taxi and Parking etc. unless I would have touch it to make it activated(Though I have really well setup). On the flight back, I have tried "Flite Deck VFR Mobile Jeppesen. Funny but, all was there and zooming in and out as they should have to be. I'm still saying, SD is the one of the most powerful Aviation Software. But please keep it that way, instead of taking a head with your members. This is a forum page, and I say to the whole forum, what I see and get.Thank you.. I just tried that exact flight in the simulator. The georeferenced parking plate showing taxiway centre line and parking information appeared at LSZP as expected. There are no georeferenced plates available for LSGN though, so they can't be shown. Sadly my phone won't allow me to upload the screenshot which proves that it does work. +x+x+x[quote]I am pretty sure we have georeferenced all Swiss airfield aerodrome plates. You're welcome.
Obviously we cannot georeference a plate which does not exist. Perhaps some of the airfields you listed do not actually have official plates published by the Swiss authorities, so there is nothing for us to georeference. Hi Tim, sure I forgot to thank you for something that I have paid. I,m really sorry to forgot to say my thanks. Thank you very much indeed. Coming to the thing; I've never talked about Plates, but about "TAXI FACILITIES" the list I gave you, are most visited Airfields in Switzerland. But hey, I'm taking your word, go for it. Honestly I don't know if I'm gonna stay with SD. Because today, I've made a flight (A real) from LSGN to LSZB, imagine all was lagging behind, means: it never showed up VAC approach, never showed Taxi and Parking etc. unless I would have touch it to make it activated(Though I have really well setup). On the flight back, I have tried "Flite Deck VFR Mobile Jeppesen. Funny but, all was there and zooming in and out as they should have to be. I'm still saying, SD is the one of the most powerful Aviation Software. But please keep it that way, instead of taking a head with your members. This is a forum page, and I say to the whole forum, what I see and get.Thank you.. +x+x[quote]+x[quote]I am pretty sure we have georeferenced all Swiss airfield aerodrome plates. You're welcome.
Obviously we cannot georeference a plate which does not exist. Perhaps some of the airfields you listed do not actually have official plates published by the Swiss authorities, so there is nothing for us to georeference. Hi Tim, sure I forgot to thank you for something that I have paid. I,m really sorry to forgot to say my thanks. Thank you very much indeed. Coming to the thing; I've never talked about Plates, but about "TAXI FACILITIES" the list I gave you, are most visited Airfields in Switzerland. But hey, I'm taking your word, go for it. Honestly I don't know if I'm gonna stay with SD. Because today, I've made a flight (A real) from LSGN to LSZB, imagine all was lagging behind, means: it never showed up VAC approach, never showed Taxi and Parking etc. unless I would have touch it to make it activated(Though I have really well setup). On the flight back, I have tried "Flite Deck VFR Mobile Jeppesen. Funny but, all was there and zooming in and out as they should have to be. I'm still saying, SD is the one of the most powerful Aviation Software. But please keep it that way, instead of taking a head with your members. This is a forum page, and I say to the whole forum, what I see and get.Thank you.. I just tried that exact flight in the simulator. The georeferenced parking plate showing taxiway centre line and parking information appeared at LSZP as expected. There are no georeferenced plates available for LSGN though, so they can't be shown. Sadly my phone won't allow me to upload the screenshot which proves that it does work. I just tried that exact flight in the simulator. The georeferenced parking plate showing taxiway centre line and parking information appeared at LSZP as expected. There are no georeferenced plates available for LSGN though, so they can't be shown. Sadly my phone won't allow me to upload the screenshot which proves that it does work. Once again, I have never talked about Plates, The plates we have them, and it is great. But when you really flying, and they ask you to vacate the Runway via B or A (which is not possible with a plate) you should comp what Tower ask's you. Like my Yesterday flight to Bern (Belp). I know Tim and his crew doing their best, I have a feeling maybe now I am understood. I am talking about, Moving ground Taxi Ways.
I think you are confusing Approach Plates and Airfield Plates. Taxiways ARE shown on the Airfield Plates. You need both plates loaded to get the behaviour you desire, and from what Tim says, for the smaller airfields, the Airfield Plates are a chargeable extra. They are available free for Bern.
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cocoroman
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+xAll these things you are asking for are included on plates, cocoroman. O.K. Tim, all is here, and I thank you, in name of all Swiss Pilots.. So it was great that I have insisted :-)). There is a little something that I can't figure out for the moment; it is not zooming in, fast enough or taxi way's are not showing automatically. As I only tried on X-Plane, I'm sure it must be the communication between X-Plane and my iPad. But I'll catch it again in real flight. Once again, thanks a lot, you guys are just great..
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